Test E and Test Cyp are ok to inject just once/wk so they are convenient and very effective. Perception is reality for most, take it for what it’s worth. The above cycle with low-ish doses of test and deca and moderate EQ will gradually pack on quality mass over the weeks with minimal sides and barely any bloating. Do NOT run Sdrol. . VaughnTrue. (Total 14 weeks before pct) Or. that is good info!! Greetings! Plotting a cycle for super Strength and would love some assistance. Yeah I'm good on weight, that's not a problem. Yep, Ive sold around 15-20 since then lol. Didn't notice any negative sides, strength blew up. Reply reply [deleted] • Assuming this is a troll, but if not I have to say an Sdrol only cycle is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard of Reply. Registered. Awards 0. sounds good. Hello, I am on my first sust 250mg e3d cycle. ago. 1. I even got him to get a full hormone panel 3-4 weeks sfter he came off a 10mg sdrol cycle for 6 weeks. Anabolic to androgenic ratio of 90:1. So. I would suggest the following cycle. stocked up on sdrol before it got crazy and everything got sold out. I think the D-bol/Test/Tren cycle has replace the old Test/Deca cycle as the new Bread and butter standard of steroids. After a proper Superdrol cycle, you will look: Bigger (in terms of muscle mass); More shredded (since Superdrol is a dry compound); With more details in the physique (we’re talking vascularity, more pronounced small muscle groups, extreme pump, and so on). So. so i didnt have access to these perscription pct i looked for some type of ph thats milder. I am just trying to get some input on anything else you guys think I could improve: Weeks 1-5 Dbol: 30mg a day (first week will be 20mg a day) Weeks 1-10 Sustanon 250: 250mg once per week. what’s up MESO, so this is what I’m considering for my next cycle, any advice would be much appreciated Weeks 1-12 Test E 250mg x’s 2 a week Weeks 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED Weeks 8-12 Sdrol 10mg EDSuperdrol experience. 44 votes, 47 comments. Stats: 6'1, 215lbs, 10-12% bodyfat, young but 7 years bodybuilding experience, 1. I have been 'preloading' milk thistle and also have liversentials, red yeast rice, something for blood pressure and then the regular vits for on cycle. with last cycles I ran 1 mg adex/week. The compound is very destructive and will assuredly lead to side effects if you use it on a regular basis. I love the strength boost but it’s less than sdrol or adrol provide me. really didnt have much of a strict diet, just tried to stay away from anything "bad. The t3 fucked me completely. in my case and many others, there seems to be a rebound effect in e2 levels that happen right after sdrol is dropped. Mdrol and Sdrol made by CEL and Fast Action are comparable to Superdrol and are a little harsher and provide somewhat better strength and size gains in my opinion. or methasterone is the methyl version of masteron. I have a couple grams of SDROl laying around now. Will injecting Glutathione EOD on a 20mg…This is exactly how I cycle my Sdrol. 2nd mistake: My adex and superdrol were mislabled and I had taken 2mg adex ED for 4 days, instead of sdrol, felt spaced out, weak, flat, sweat a lot during workouts, etc. I've read many great things about this oral. View Profile View Forum. com and saw that i was always aware of roids and stuff but after actually seeing the progress i knew at some point i had. I generally think that toxicity is over played. I made really fast obviously enhanced gains seemed to lose fat while putting on an abnormal amount of muscle from the mk. Starting a new cycle soon, and want to run some orals at the start. The only reason i really even decided to use sdrol is because i was/am a huge george leeman fan and his deadlift went from 690(or so) to 865 from a single cycle of mdrol (sdrol clone). Reduces fat and. Hi i ve use epi in the past at 25mg but i wanna try sdrol at 20mg for 4weeks. Know and obey the rules of the road. Reveristol is not a SERM what so ever and if you used it for a sdrol cycle im betting you didnt fully recover for a long time after Sorta phrased it wrong. I'm starting my AX sdrol cycle February 1st and will run 20/20/20, cannot WAIT!! ~~freq-out~~ Superdrol Cycle. Superdrol is simply the Drostanolone hormone with an added methyl group at the 17 th carbon position that allows. I read a lot about people seeing traumatic physique changes on Sdrol. The last girl I helped was preping for a show and leaned out by a couple percent and gained about 5lbs in a 4 week period. However, this modification does not just make it orally available, it turns it into a completely different steroid with its own unique effects and side effects. But after the first week the lethargy kicks in. I was going to repeat the same cycle, but decided to wait until this fall. Tomorrow will be 3 weeks on the cycle and I decide to take a BF test today. I experienced a nice pop in strength across all my lifts very quickly. hgc/clomid/nolva ran in a type cycle fashion is the recomendation for pct by william llewellyn which is a studied, and proven effective hormone restoration plan. Didn’t have the best diet and the tren led to me feeling like I could get away with cheatmeals all the. Sdrol will make you look better for sure haha, idt the strength is nearly as good as halo tho. Well-known member. 7% BF. [deleted] • 3 yr. hello i m planing to run sdrol for 4 weeks and wondering for pct is nolva enough or i need to use an Ai like aromasin pct ?Awards. But you need to run it with test cause it doesn’t aromatize. Details of the cycle you included the compound in Whether you liked the compound or not and whether you’d use it again. Jul 23, 2006. . Ironically I've upped everything, carbs, protein, cals and training accordingly especially since I've heard sdrol utilizes carbs well. And this was twice a day. S-drol obliterates your lipids as well. michael75 Member. I've only done one hdrol cycle for 6weeks and recovered well with a proper pct. Tldr: Lost 2% bf on each cycle Mass:superdrol Strength:superdrol What I felt better on: superdrol barely Pump: superdrol Recomp affect: superdrol better daily results lost more bodyfat on rad but almost identical on superdrol. Wks 1-12 Test 300/will Wks 1-12 NPP 100/EOD Wks 1-12 Arimidex . Sdrol on a daily. #1. ago. SUPERDROL 20-30 mg Ed weeks 12-16. So I’ll be the first to say that I started with oral only cycles. Anyone using sdrol after self isolation and dieting will probably blow up fast so if you get some it's probably a perfect time for you. how are. Don’t need them. True muscle mass gains will take at least 4-6 weeks to notice anyway, and many people end up bailing out at this point in the cycle due to side effects anyway. Probably drank during that time on weekends. . Don’t plan on doing any more after this one either. S-drol obliterates your lipids as well. I think I gained 38lbs during my 90 day cycle, and lost about 18 of it during pct (2 months) and then another 5-6lbs over the next 3 months after pct. Week 2: Same amount of Test, and upping Superdrol to 10mg before and 10mg after if tolerance was good. Dec 4, 2015 #12 I'll be pinning hopefull this summer. The HCG I'm doing on cycle is to try to keep my balls somewhat awake. You absolutely need a SERM's to be able to restart your body's natural test that has been dormnant that long and eliminate high estrogen levels. will have adex and nolva on hand during cycle. I'll only be doing 200 - 300 test anyway and only around 25mg anavar. . During a bulking cycle, you can take 25 mg of MK 677, 15 mg of RAD 140 and 10 mg of YK11 per day. Awards. It does take a bit to kick in but it will give slow maintainable gainsFeb 20, 2022. Sort by. I'm not a woman, but I've helped a handful of women through Sdrol cycles. Week 1: 150mg of test pinned on Monday and Thursday. But dmz was in some ph that had like 5 things in it With no test. The cycle after that I will kickstart with dbol most likely, but I might kickstart with tren ace weeks 1-8 next time around, who knows!I was taught you either bulk or cut. I have Test E 200, so I’m wondering if I could get away with pinning…0. MultislackingI do think some people are particularly sensitive to how that ligand shape effects receptor activity (differential androgen response elements has been shown between test vs DHT - it's not just binding afinity), but generalizing from the DHT thing is broadly incorrect. Hdrol was good. Heres how the cycle will look. just bothers me sometimes when people with wise comments like anadrol. Gonna stick with 600 test 300 deca for 16 weeks along with Proviron 50mg ed this time around, and throw in 10mg Superdrol weeks 12-18 to tighten things up and really solidify my gains. . 5mgs per day / At 5mgs per day, they didn’t feel the suppression experienced was worth going through PCT. make it 17 position altered and stronger potency. With HCG, it's like running a car with with a flat tire. I have been trying to get Geno to sell sdrol for years and he is finally getting it. It is very toxic and has very little research or info on it. 2,167. Week 1 – 10mg Week 2 – 20mg Week 3 - 20mg I would personally never recommend over 20mg. 1. I have heard of fellas having prostate issues with it. The cycle: Test E 250 mg E3D for 12 weeks Aromasin, 6. C$ 0 - C$ 15000. It's complexity and variation for no real benefit over just running. Jbryan is right with the 10ng per day for 6 weeks. But after the first week the lethargy kicks in. Sample Beginner Cycle The recommended use for this product is about 20mg to 40mg per day, depending on goals. 0 coins. I have already taken my pre cycle stack now I am. 258. It depends bro, everyone reacts differently. Either way lifts went up about 50lbs while bulking on superdrol. For best results cycle with testosterone such as Sustanon or Cypionate, at a dosage of 400mg per week for the first two weeks and then move to 500mg per week for the last four weeks. Great cycle it’s my go to when I compete and I ad primo. might be too low. gained about 6 lbs. Man I can really do. As always, read the wiki entry first (if necessary) and follow the rules. Loved gains from drol so curious about this stack. I started my first dosage of SDrol at 10mg yesterday. Reply. daily. . Started Epi at 10mg for 2 days, 20mg. increasing from day to day. I last 2 weeks before the lethargy kicks in. I am between Anavar, and Tbol. Sdrol makes you feel like shit, like Adrol makes you feel fairly good although not great like Dbol. His only bloodwork, he did with me about this time last year, about 9 weeks after a 30mg/day wk sdrol cycle had him with test levels in the high 400's, his liver enzymes were a little elevated and his cholesterol a. e. Side effects you experienced, physically or mentally (good or bad) Details of the cycle you included the drug in. This setup works great for cutting as well as dry/lean bulking. You need a lot more knowledge before you touch steriods. Want EVEN MORE. Mostly did dosages from 20-40mg. ago. Whoever recommended that doesn’t know dick about making progress, beyond just upping the dose. 5. Which I found to really keep sided to a minimum. Nevertheless, the average Superdrol results are really impressive, with. but if results are what you are after, then suck it up, grow some balls, and don't drink for a while. 93 products. Current cycle is a little wild 350mg test/wk (no ester kickstart) 750mg npp/wk (no ester kickstart) 400mg mast/wk 20mg sdrol. The test would be to take 10mg of superdrol on workout days only. 203K subscribers in the steroids community. Helps promote the development of fuller muscles. From the research that i have done i see that most people are running superdrol for 3 week cycles, either 10m/20mg/30mg or 20/20/30. 5. Recomp with cut emphasis. SwoleTide NSFW [Compound Experience Saturday] Superdrol (Methyldrostanolone, Methasteron, Sdrol) Compounds For those unaware, each week we have a specific. Test and Sdrol cycle with Dbol PWO? Anabolics: 7: Dec 4, 2022: Which PCT to select after halodrol cycle? Post Cycle Therapy: 23: Feb 20, 2022: Similar threads. it is called the p. Let’s see what some of the other guys think about what you have planned. Read people take it up to 30 but less is more often especially when ppl end up having to stop from lethargy, liver probs, appetite loss etc. Sdrol is foolish its a very advanced compound stronger Than anadrol 50 mg anadrol is 10 mg superdrol don't befoolish to try it this early and your first cycle needs to be of a single compound preferably Testosterone Enanthate or Testosterone Cypionate nothing fancy if you want to add orals then you can use 15 to 20 mg of dianabol as a Kickstart. Because of its devastating effects on the liver, a 4-week Superdrol cycle is. I recently incorporated Sdrol in the 8th week of my current bulk cycle. Many on here would recommend the same and have had great success with that dosage. Ive never used. I prefer it do abombs because it is much drier - its actually a great finisher to an overall wet cycle (longer estered test). Somebody suggested to me that I front-load (500mg) during the first week and then 250mg each week thereafter. Structuring your cycle will involve considering the half life of each and every steroid being used. Do several cycles with 150 mg Adrol, it ain't a sky-high dose these days and studies prove it safe for short term use. never seen anybody gain anything off an sdrol cycle except a lot of water and maybe some gyno. But as long as you manage e2 and bp appropriately, it’ll work great. theJmad said: i don't think nolva is necessary after all compounds, but i would def. Test E 1-14 750mg/w. coincidentally, superdrol is also very good for strength, like halo or cheque drops. SDrol vs ADrol: Anabolics: 9: Mar 23, 2023: Test and Sdrol cycle with Dbol PWO? Anabolics: 7: Dec 4, 2022: question on pulsing sdrol and rotating orals: Anabolics: 23: Nov 29, 2021: Bulking cycle (epi/msten/sdrol + possibly dimethabold or dianadrol?) Anabolics: 14: May 10, 2021: just finished my first sdrol cycle, question about powerfull. My lipids and liver enzymes fluctuate pretty wildly and I don't drink alcohol. Menu. It often suppresses appetite and can cause digestive issues so taking it when bulking can be counterproductive. I started at 40mg's/day split into 3 doses of 20/10/10. These cycles should ideally last anywhere from six to eight weeks. CryptoI love my sdrol, the gains made on it are incredible and IMHO worth the side effects. I have been weighing myself throughout the cycle and I have been getting slow but steady gains since 5-6 days into it. From your second cycle onward, increase the dosage to 30-40mg per day. without it gyno is almost a given. 1. Starting a cycle at 15 mg/day. Also thought of only pulsing sdrol? My cycle history is one three week superdrol cycle, a superdrol pulse. Location OR. Mar 25, 2009. I would stay with short hard runs of sdrol. Sdrol can definitely cause acne and gyno for prone users, and due to side effects combined with these possibilities, it's not a good oral to run for a first time oral steroid run (with. 16 week. I love my sdrol, the gains made on it are incredible and IMHO worth the side effects. I'm currently thinking of week1 30epi/10drol, week2 40epi/10drol, week3 40epi/20drol, week4 40epi. With the cycle not being any longer. The sdrol I am taking becuase I have read that it works faster than anything else. But once you stop it you'll be dragging for over week. Eat clean, drink alot and stay within 10-20mg not higher. Aug 20, 2016 #7 IronJulius Subscriber. Should I stop the winny/sdrol and then do clen and back to winny/sdrol OR clen/winny and cycle winny/sdrol? Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. " As for supplements used: NO-xplode, GNC whey, fish oils and multivitamins. When it comes to toxicity between Dianabol vs Superdrol, Dianabol has the upper hand with lesser toxicity. Fourth Edition* THE BRITISH COLUMBIA BICYCLE OPERATOR’S MANUAL A GUIDE TO THE RULES. Going light. Last Monday I started a cycle. Superdrol was better than winny but I think I lost a little bit of hair. i chose Hemaguno (epistane clone) instead. 6. That being said, 500mcg mtren with 10mg sdrol is fan-fucking-tastic. And this was twice a day. Its gonna be a BULK cycle. A lot of people think it's a prohormone, but my understanding is that is a powerful oral AAS. i was hoping some of you might shed some more light. SDROL is powerful by itself, if you run out od 3-AD, then run out, dont go out and get another bottle just to run it along side SDROL, you wont need it. its 50mg per ml and has a 24 hour halflife. Just got some in & I'm gonna throw it in my next cycle or 2. Nothing wrong with tren e/test e cycles. r. May 23, 2019 #4 Right on. Just started the Tren E but already feeling it kicking it. Superdrol Cycle. dog what, ive run many sdrol cycles before. Gained 8-10 lbs of ACTUAL muscle in a month would be incredibly good. I’ve run Sdrol before and that shit is godly. Me personally I'm in love with dbol. Price maximum value. Anabolics. The recommended use for this product is about 20mg to 40mg per day, depending on goals. test e +sdrol cycle . epi is pretty good if you dose high: 60-80mg; i actually did a pulse cycle with this and worked pretty well for lean gains plus strength hdrol is my fav at 100mg a day - solid strength gains, prob put on 10lbs sdrol - tried it at 30 but stopped after two weeks, started feeling sick to my stomach, but it kicked in quick, got really stronghefty cycle pob. I just recently ran Superdrol for the first 8 weeks of my cycle and used it @20mg an hour pre workout so figure 5 days a week. If I respond or have side effects at 40mg I’ll stay put. im gonna do a 3 week cycle take off for 4-6weeks. I'm with Redwolf on this D-bol is like an anti depressant combined with a steroid. That might be because its toxic af. Just wondering if anyone has anecdotal experience running a sort of micro cycle of sdrol and how it went for you and if running for just a few weeks would be worthwhile. Im 5'9" 180 lbs 8% bf Today marks day 13 of Hdrol cycle, im not diggin it at all. Want EVEN MORE cycles with Superdrol? Beginners should dose Superdrol at 20mg per day. This will be my first cycle after getting Gyno surgery but 10th overall cycle. Side effects you experienced, physically or mentally (good or bad) Details of the cycle you included the drug in. I started the Sdrol on Monday and the effects have been rapid. So I'm running test e right now and just ordered some bottles of superdrol. Don't want any severe mental sides, specifically. Sdrol you gain 3/4 of the size but more quality gain imo and you can easily run 4weeks without being too tired etc,so if you can only tolerate a 2 week m1t you’ll gain LESS than 4week sdrol cycle,goodluck with running it but it’s very toxic too hope you have tudca on hand too loved superdrol. Considerable size and mass gains. Doesn’t convert to estrogen. I have for my third PH cycle now ( ik its real aas) Superdrol lower dosages i want. pee is just as yellow as i first started, im not sure about hairloss because i was taking accutane so it was shedding by itself but not noticeable. #8. Earlier I compared sdrol to a crazy girlfriend, that’s not entirely accurate. The day I started my sdrol cycle, I was 157 lbs with 13. Stength - if you can tolerate sdrol, sdrol mg for mg. But 3 weeks is too long. If your tired and sluggish you may need. Start with a low dose and work your way up if you can handle the sides. Some people only run a 3-week cycle because they don't see many Superdrol gains after this point anyways. I assume the injection version twice a day would build some nice muscle overtime . I’ve heard tren can make you feel in a whole nother level. (heftier pumps and obvious physique changes). Was also using sdrol as well for 4 weeks prior to the second draw. Anyway, if sdrol didn't, I doubt mast will. You'll need omega3 2-3 times a day/ liver protection before you run sdrol and after! Sdrol is a bad mfker. It’ll dry you out of the water you’re holding but if you gain 15 lbs on a superdrol cycle and 0 was fat I’d expect half of it to be glycogen and not actual muscle though. Actually none of my oral cycles gave me lethargy, my body doesn't really seem to care about my test levels hahaha I had 34 ng/dl test levels for months and months before I got a trt script after my last cycle and I had zero low test symptoms . Superdrol is that true-crime documentary trophy wife that everyone envies and admires on the outside but is a true sociopath on the inside. Have never ran sdrol before but was curious about stacking it with the test, whether. I experienced a nice pop in strength across all my lifts very quickly. 500mg Test (1/18) NPP 400mg (1-10) Dbol 50mg (1-4) Adrol 50mg (1-4) MK677 20mg ED (1-4) Never tried it but I’ve heard good things. So I'm running test e right now and just ordered some bottles of superdrol. the concept and use makes total sense. Been cold turkey since. Sdrol will make you look better for sure haha, idt the strength is nearly as good as halo tho. . ive had nothing major on 20mgs of sdrol. This is the perfect prohormone to do a bulking cycle. Effect wise Sdrol feels exactly how I always imagined all Steroids feel like. And I don’t do steroids often, only ran about 3 cycles over past few years. its definitely one of the most powerful orals but pales in comparison to its injectable counterpart. 1-4 Sdrol. 5-2 hours pre workout for best gym function. Cycle #1- TESTOSTERONE ONLY. Amount per Capsule: 2a,17a-dimethyl-4-androstadiene-3-one,17b - 10mg Essential: High Strength 1000mg TUDCA cycle support Essential: Pro PCT post cycle therapy Other ingredients: Magnesium Stearate, HMPC Veg Cap Half-life: 8. 16 weeks (possibly 18-20) 1-16 750mg Test 1-10 200mg Deca 1-12 50mg TBOL daily 13-16 10mg SDROL (injectable) I only have enough deca for 10 weeks @ 200mg. I want to continue to lean out while making some reasonable. Have never ran sdrol before but was curious about stacking it with the test, whether adding it to the last 3-4 weeks of my test cycle or running it at a later date alone. Hey guys. Bianchi Pista Sprint 51cm C$999. without it gyno is almost a given. #1. Add to cart. Just take note that most of that gain is glycogen and intracellular water. Considerable size and mass gains. -Nex . . Previous oral use (with Test, of course): 60mg Dbol a day, 6 weeks 20mg Sdrol a day, 3 weeks. Harm reduction focused discussions related to safe usage of AAS, TRT or hormone…It is significantly more anabolic than Dianabol, with a ratio of 400:20 compared to Dianabol’s ratio of 90:40. Jan 18, 2009. Thanks for documenting. Most people still don’t really get how tudca works though. I have been trying to get Geno to sell sdrol for years and he is finally getting it. thinking that by taking . 10mg/day for a 3 weeks. of sdrol. Rad140 20mg per ml. I’ve ran or solo at 20/30/30- the gains were great but I felt it’s negative effects on my body. It is an Anabolic Androgenic Steroid (AAS) that is potent enough to deliver massive strength and lean muscle gains, provided you combine it with proper training and diet. . I’d much rather run 8 weeks every other day of a slightly less potent cycle, than 4 weeks and deal with liver issues/more sides. Reactions: Mikey001. Still taking at consistent time on offdays. Helps promote the development of fuller muscles. Superdrol can either be used on its own in a cycle, or as part of a stack combined with other anabolic steroids. Each ester you have used and if your experience varied (if applicable) This week’s Compound/PED is: Anadrol (Oxymethalone aka. Liver support. ~Theonslaught, 2012. Sdrol is a bad mfker. Tried everything from Tren to Mast to Sdrol. Now superdrol is my favorite oral but. If so, seems kinda harsh to be runnin a sdrol cycle first time out. I have been of the impression that Superdrol has Masteron like affects and am curious if that sort of dried out lean muscle builder and potentially muscle saving ability can be utilized during a cut. You guys are killing me with these awesome triple stack results. I know lot people use high dosage of Anavar but a good contact enjoyed 20mg of Anavar daily (Pharma grade) 05-22-2020, 09:34 AM #9. nah tren/ment/injectable sdrol are objectively stronger and change your physique faster as long as you aren't a fat "powerlifter". After only a month, this person recovered without problems and went on to keep all of their gains. . Sdrol and anadrol shouldn't be stacked at like 100mg anadrol and 30mg sdrol but more like 50mg anadrol 10mg sdrol. Start off with h-drol only or epi only. They provide reasonable advantages and limited sides. I’m not saying don’t use it. Honestly I don't see the point of any stack since superdrol is the strongest and maybe the most toxic but its barely androgenic and you don't have the estrogen from dbol which means superdrol solo would make you avoid. (I'm a tall fella. hey guys, im 25 years old, 219lbs, been lifting about 7 years, solid diet. if you dont use SERM what would be an alternitive. Some advanced bodybuilders go as high as 30 or 40mg, but this is really playing Russian roulette with your health. Wondering what yall think about running both of these in the same cycle 10 Weeks- Strength stack 1-10 Sustanon (50mg 4x a week) 1-4 Superdrol 10mg ED 5-10 Dbol 10mg Pre Strength Training 5-PCT MK677 10-25mg PCT. 1-Multiple new compounds mean you won’t know what’s doing what, what is causing sides, & what you do & don’t respond well to. Hey! Planning on the next cycle, still have time to it but love to do the plans beforehand and get everything ready :) I'm currently 6'0" and about 200lbs. - 1ML/CC. Thank god ur ok. DSW, I haven't used sdrol but i've tried hdrol, which is also made by fast action. IMO, I would run sdrol for 3 weeks at 10/20/20. Mixing tren and deca is dumb, a cycle of 500mg test E and 300mg tren E blows me the fk up. . ) I'm preloading: *** Liver. FitRain3592 • 3 yr. And IDGAF about aesthetics. This will be my first cycle after getting Gyno surgery but 10th overall cycle. I followed both cycles up with Nolva at 40/40/20/20 and like I said, kept everything. Insulin 5iu morning/5 iu post-wo. They are extremely toxic, more so than any others, except maybe Halo or Cheque Drops. Home. Sdrol your just gonna bloat up super fast not sure how much contractile muscle tissue you’ll actually build but I believe sdrol is dry gains at least. There are many more that you might add in just for the cycle since not a cost-effective nor necessary to run year-round. Premium Powerups Explore Gaming. Most people begin their Superdrol cycles by taking somewhere between 10-20 mg a day. Could probably stay on 10mg this. 3 bottles AX Phera Plex (lic. ~USPLabs Board Rep~-NASM & CSCS Certified-. Also tried dbol and sdrol. You need to have an AI on hand in case of estrogen. Porky.